| Tillie | Posted: 27 January 2019 - 09:48 AM |
Due to Godzilla Badger attack... LOL 😀 | |
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| Subclinical | Posted: 10 May 2019 - 05:49 AM |
Tillie, I can't believe I forgot to post about your pantry project - I was really impressed! Tatoulia - I hope you feel better. Dh is taking the day off to work on the baseboards. The house is a mess, and I am just as tired as usual on Fridays, but, I feel better about the barn, I got some planting done, and I am on top of my lesson planning (although I wish I had finished grooming the rabbit yesterday - I wanted to take her in today, but I don't want to take her half groomed. OTOH, we have dinner with the kids tonight, and the rabbit is not necessary to my lesson plan, so maybe this is a case of learning not to pack in one more thing. She can go next week, or the last day. I did very little actual work on my pottery - glazed one dish and stuck it in the school kiln, plus finished the hippos for my grads - but I did pick up my work from last class session and discuss my results with dh, get some new tools, bring home scrap clay, sign up for a late summer class, and develop some ideas. I forgot to call the reuse store lady. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 09 May 2019 - 10:10 PM |
Good Evening Everybody Hi Tatoulia Have a wonderful and relaxing day tomorrow! 😀 Relaxation time is like open space. This morning was sunny and very pleasant. Pantry is all put back together. Last several days the wild yellow roses have been blooming. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 09 May 2019 - 07:32 PM |
Loved reading all the posts! Yay Tillie no critters in the pantry! I bet it looks really nice now! Ooohhh a nice Imari bowl! Did he know it was a museum and not a shop? Ridiculous!!! SubC your thought process on the stamps is spot-on. I don't think I've ever directly discussed how I got here and how bad it had gotten. I generally like to work on the problem and then do a post-mortem. Or ignore the cause altogether. This has been interesting for me this week to discuss it fairly directly. I am taking tomorrow off. I don't feel like myself. I have moved my haircut to the afternoon. I should be at work but I asked for the day and I got it. I'm m hoping to bake or do something else to find some relaxation. My Tuesday night mentor ship ended up being pretty intense. I will limit myself with this particular person to day time activities because the open ended nature is too difficult. And then I've been worried about someone else, too. So I'll enjoy my day and maybe work on my closet or maybe not. M Thank you all for giving me friendship and advice and for caring about me. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 09 May 2019 - 11:51 AM |
Good Morning Everybody Hi Subclinical That book sounds like it is really going to help you. Sometimes we do need to buy things. Thank you so much for telling me about your take on museums and the reuse store. Hi Tatoulia Hi Joan Hi CriticalMass Well, today I need to wipe down everything from the pantry and put it all back neatly organized. | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 09 May 2019 - 09:01 AM |
Serial posting, but I have unloaded the car and admired my stamp haul. One stamp for me to actually use with ink - perfect for a gift card or note to my mom. Four (vintage?)crocheted doilies (fabric) to use to impress designers on bowls. One clay press mold for me that I forgot. Six new roller wheel stamps and two additional handles for my class, and 14 roller wheel stamps for me (I may decide to turn some over to the class after I try them for a while) And 29 assorted wood block rubber stamps (mostly around 1"sq) for me.(again, may pass some on to the class later) Plus, one accidentally left in the handle ink pad to go back to the shop (It was included fairly in my purchase, but I have no use for it.) | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 09 May 2019 - 05:05 AM |
I lost a piece of my post! When talking about the reuse store, I said "the cost is like a membership or storage fee. "My" pool costs me $15 a month. "My""giant craft supply room" costs less than that." | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 09 May 2019 - 04:59 AM |
It's great to see so much going on in here! CM, the book is written primarily as if for working people, so you have to look at the theory under the application and ignore the career parts. One thing that is hard for me and I can see in my life, but am struggling to truly understand and apply, is that your focus time is not your rest time. Just because you are doing something that is only for you, that is creative or uplifting, it does not mean you are resting. Something can be fun and still be work. You also have to schedule open time into your days when you actually rest - effectively "do nothing". Times to turn you brain and body off and slack in your day to be spontaneous. You can't schedule and use every minute. I have a really hard time with the fact that when I get home after 7:00, I am tired and generally "accomplish nothing" between the and bed ("nothing" being my evening chores, dinner, making my plan for the next day, and sometimes a few dishes.) I always think "I will have a couple of hours, I can take care of xyz" and then feel bad about myself when I don't. Now I am telling myself "7-9:30 is my rest time. Of course I will do my chores, but that is all. I will eat, read, talk to dh or maybe a kid on the phone, and just generally relax. I will NOT do anything on my list." My house is getting messier, but it is not too bad. We can clean it up this weekend (see how I said "we"? - his slippers on the living room floor are not bothering me - why do I take them upstairs all the time?) Joan, I am glad you have a sense of progress, and that you have been able to post. I hope some day you will have a new life like Tatoulia and we will be able to feel the same joy for you. And Tatoulia, I do feel joy when I think about your "new" reclaimed life and home - you are a bright soul and it is like watching a bird set free. Sometimes we think we are building a nest and it turns out we are really building a cage. You show us it is possible to open the cage and fly free again. Tillie, I love museums! I love that someone else is taking care of all of this amazing stuff and that it belongs to me (as a member of the museum using public) but I don't have to store it. I have been known to long for a particular piece of art or love a display so much that I go to the gift shop and buy a reproduction or post card to keep it close to me (or in places where it is allowed - take a photo) but it is not like art fairs, where someone else might buy the work and not appreciate it and if I walk away I will never see it again (now and then I do ask an artisan if I may photograph something to show my students - when I truly want to show my students. They usually say yes) Knowing I absolutely cannot take the thing with me actually relieves the pressure. I "have" a beautiful ancient Chinese bowl at a local museum that I go to stare at now and then. Dh does not understand why, out of the whole museum, I always have to spend so much time staring at that one little bowl from different angles, but he accepts it. We refer to it as "my" bowl. The reuse store is also helpful to me, because I know I can go any week and buy a nice selection of random useful bits and pieces for almost nothing. Also that I can take them my random useful bits and pieces and they will get them into the hands of people who will want, appreciate, and use them. "my" "giant craft supply room" costs less than that. That said, they did have a bag sale on rubber stamps yesterday, and I went after work and splurged quite a bit on stamps for both my studio and my classroom. I also bought some fabric for a new kind of bowl i just started making that I really like and think will sell, took some free plastic canvas shapes for next year's fiber arts class, and a free sparkly, furry plastic tiara that I plan to give the other art teacher for "crazy hat day" in two weeks. I will give a more honest and detailed accounting of the stamps and fabric later. But, the bags were the large party gift bag type - not as big as a brown lunch bag - and I told myself I was limited to two before I started, and managed to keep to that goal (although I must confess to being an excellent bag packer) I talked to the lady at the store, and she said I should call today and talk to the head lady, but that they might be able to take my extra plaster molds. One mold (or a couple small ones) takes up the same space as everything I bought. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 08 May 2019 - 08:30 PM |
Ps Joan I used to go to the movies back when I still drove at night. There's a movie theatre with independent type movies. When I'd hop in the car to go, BF would say, who are you going with? And I'd say, me, myself, and I. With the exception of the night I took a neighbor, Janie. That night I said, me, myself and Janie. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 08 May 2019 - 08:28 PM |
Wow! Tillie!! Great work on the new floors! Wow! Joan!! Your self-work and break-throughs are fantastic! Joan, I am grateful to know that you are here, even if you cannot post. I send you lots of love. Tillie thank you for helping me sort through what happened to my life. My BF was working tons of hours and I would stay with him, bringing the kitty, and not really dealing what was going on here. I could put enough stuff into closets and the bedroom for Christmas meals. And my kitchen would be such a mess. But those days are over for us. I remember once during a terrible snowstorm and I thought, oh no he'll have to sleep here and I was so grateful when he said that no, he needed a decent night's sleep (kitty is in and out all night; and although she doesn't sleep with me, she sleeps on his head, or wedged between his feet and the footboard). and he and a bunch of university workers got hotel rooms and they had dinner in the hotel bar and then in the AM the university police escorted back to their jobs. Meanwhile I'm cooking for shut-Ins and cleaning trash out of other people's homes and I'm volunteering and taking care of brother and I'm hoarding and letting dirt build up and it got so bad here. So bad. I'd have to buy at least one thing a day. I bought anything and everything. My life is far more balanced now. And I'm happy without faking it. I am frequently lauded for being so positive and kind, but a lot of it was hard work. Now I can do it more genuinely, the way I used to. And I have far better balance with helping people out. I set limits with them and me. Goodnight my dears. Tillie rest up you worked so hard today. I hope you won't be sore. Love to SubC and CM and Anony | |
| Joan | Posted: 08 May 2019 - 07:40 PM |
CM, I am still thinking of you. Hi SubC. Hi Tillie. I am sorry you are going through all of that. It is very difficult with nastiness in your house. Happily I live by myself now. I have plenty of company: me, myself, and I. Hi Tat. You sound good. Allbirds are very mesningful to me for many reasons. They tell me I will walk free one day. Right now I cannot do much. The inability to move around a lot and the limited constructive interactions I have with the world around me do contribute to hoarding. Regular posting is too much for me, so I will come back later. It feels like my work is coming together. If I don't have a manic episode, I will have healed my own OCD (amd hoarding). I don't know of anyone else who has done that. There will still be 30 years of hoarding to address, but it will all keep until I am able to function in the way I was designed to function. I hope you are all well. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 08 May 2019 - 07:24 PM |
Good Late Afternoon Everyone Hi Tatoulia Very impressed with all you wrote about. Extremely glad you can and do enjoy museums and art shows. Today to burn off steam I laid a parquet floor in the pantry. My pantry is where I keep all my food, cat stuff, cleaning supplies, ironing board, clothes drying rack, vacuum, water dispenser, tool tote, step ladder, large shelf to hold my food stuff, umbrellas, craft lamp, etc. and now my portable heaters/radiators & fan. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 08 May 2019 - 01:59 PM |
Tillie your question has provoked a lot of thought on my part and I'm so grateful you asked it. This is some stuff I've learned through being a hoarder: | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 08 May 2019 - 01:20 PM |
Tillie thank you for your question. For me, going to museums is a wonderful experience. I have loved going since a child. I don't feel the need to own it, I know it's there. It also informs my lasting purchases (furniture, art, tapestry, fabrics). I've learned to buy certain things in pairs (my bedroom lamps, not sure if you could see them in the pictures, are a pair as opposed to two identical lamps.). Now, after going through the hoarding experience, going to the museum helps me get rid of stuff, the same way that going to a person's uncluttered house helps me. I used to buy the gallery books at the gift shop but now I buy postcards only and I use them. I save them and then when I need a card, I have them. Consignment and antique shops used to tempt me because I'd buy every cute thing without asking, where will this go m, so I need another yellow ceramic bunny, why do I have this glass elephant in my hand. I've gotten past that here. I can't do the one in/one out method or even the one in/two out methid because it's the IN that's the problem. I'm well in my way in OUT. I can go to art auctions now and I'm good. The only thing I'd like to add is a mirror for over my fireplace, once it's built-in. I know my artist friend wants a chandelier in my bedroom (I'm good with that) but I won't do til I find something I like and at a price I'm willing to pay. She also wants sconces here and there but I only want one pair, flanking the fireplace, which I won't be buying until I've met with contractor. So I've got a few things I'll be adding to the decor to my house but nothing else. I'm truly getting through this. I'm so sorry he is nasty. I know the nastiness. I truly do. I am still hypersensitive to it. I think that spending decades pretending it wasn't happening has damaged me a bit. I would pretend it wasn't happening, then I was pretending it didn't happen, then I'd just hope he'd break my jaw so I could find away alone. I am so, so sorry for this situation Tillie. Obviously your situation is vastly different but I still think I can understand to some extent. I am sorry you are missing your furry friends. I know how much they loved you, Tillie. And that kind of love is very nurturing and healing. Sending you my own love. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 08 May 2019 - 11:11 AM |
Good Morning Everybody Hi Subclinical Hi CriticalMass Hi Tatoulia Hi Joan Hoping today is a better day here for me. To answer your questions Tatoulia I have often wondered how a person with hoarding tendencies feels when going to museums where they can look but not own anything there. How are you feeling about returning your cute shoes? And as always, it is such a pleasure to snuggle down into those wonderful sun dried linens. My plan for today is to try my best not to throttle him. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 08 May 2019 - 11:07 AM |
Good morning! Yes it's afternoon here. Doing one load of laundry, working, and making other decisions in my mind regarding reducing stuff. It will reduce chaos for me, and that's what I need. I have two more pair of shoes to send in their way. More sunshine today!!!!! I cannot believe my eyes. I have a gallery talk tonight (free) and I'm excited. was hoping BF could join me but he cannot. This one is in the city so I'll walk down and enjoy it. The last one we did was put quite a distance and we had to drive. The paintings are all in the tens of thousands so there's no fear I'll get tempted!!! | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 07 May 2019 - 09:12 PM |
10 PM and I'm just getting in from mentoring someone tonight. I'm exhausted and my feet are tired. So tired. Would love a bowl of ice cream, SubC. Tillie I hope you had a pleasant day. I'm thinking I should start vacuuming my bedroom on Saturdays when I change my sheets. How often do you vacuum? Cm it is a difficult time for you and your friend. It's remarkable to be able to laugh and catch up and spend time together. I send you both much love. Joan, we had sunshine today followed by some rain. I wore the tree skippers in but a lesser shoe home. Here's some remarkable technology: I initiated the return for the Rothys, then today I printed the label, put it on the box and walked it over to the PO, and the lady scanned it. When I checked my email this afternoon, there was already the credit in my PayPal. Amazing. Tillie how was your night's sleep on the wonderful air-dried sheets?? | |
| CriticalMass | Posted: 07 May 2019 - 10:24 AM |
SubC, yes, that book sounds very relatable for me! I meant to mention it. I shall do a search now before I forget. Thanks! I ended up deciding to forego quilting this morning but maybe could go tomorrow. It had to do with needing to sleep in and be less rushed. But it's okay. Sometimes I just start feeling pressured and, though I don't want to start making too many excuses to avoid things (which as a procrastinator I can easily do), I think I have to be flexible in this unusual time. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 07 May 2019 - 07:24 AM |
Quick note to wish everyone a gentle day. | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 07 May 2019 - 04:43 AM |
I made cookies and cream and chocolate. I don't make fruit ice cream because I don't like it. I like my fruit put up just plain frozen or in jam, or if it's peaches, canned with a little brandy. I have some coffee mix ready to go this morning. Then I will have TEN! pints in my freezer! (Including vanilla) It's really frozen custard, which is why I have to get it ready the night before and chill it overnight. Great way to put up extra eggs and milk! Joan, i'm Glad to hear you have been sleepy at bedtime. It is so frustrating to try to get yourself to bed at a good time but not be able to sleep. Dh struggles with that. CriticalMass, I am so very sorry about your friend. I know you are making this time easier for her, and I hope you can enjoy the time you have together. I am thinking about your doll situation and wondering if you would benefit from this book. If you want my thoughts on it, let me know. I am sore and stiff from cleaning stalls yesterday, but feeling fairly pleased with myself. I even managed to run a load of laundry in my "leftover" time yesterday evening. Normally I would start the laundry earlier and then when I got to the evening it would be too dark to work outside, or I would be too tired to be creative. I also started sorting my spices into my bread pan, but quit because going to bed on time is part of my heath focus. So there are still spices on the counter, but when I pass them, I just say "no, no, no." Maybe dh will put them away. Or maybe I will get back to them tonight. Housework is never truly done, so I am experimenting with leaving it half finished instead of all the things I want to do. I think spices will survive a week of neglect more easily than plants. And maybe I won't have piles of half finished projects everywhere. Which would be better than not having spices out on my counter or laundry in my hamper. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 11:08 PM |
Good Evening Everyone Hi CriticalMass Hi Joan Hi Tatoulia Today I vacuumed and washed dishes then did a little beading. | |
| Joan | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 10:22 PM |
CM, I am so sorry about your friend. Passings and transitions and separations are always difficult, emotional times. I generally do refrain from trying to sway the situation one way or another, because I feel it is the sick person who has to decide what is best for herself/himself. Good for you for balancing your yearnings for dolls with everything else that is going on. Sometimes you need a fix. Tonight I am sleepy. It has happened now a few nights in a row. I have worked for over 66 years to be sleepy at night. I still spend my whole day, every day, engineering my activity, diet, and supplements so that I can sleep at night. I got myself a family doctor last month, for the family of me, myself, and I. They are all boggled over there that I am even alive. It made me feel good. One nurse wanted to know "What if someone else were taking care of you?" I told her, "No. I have to do it." They had not even heard of some of the stuff I take. My body is burned out on medications, so I cannot have almost any synthetic medication. I have survived, among other worse things, the mental heath systems in three states over a period of about 35 years. Most everyone I knew is dead. The drugs alone will kill you. Now I am planning to have a life. Slowly. | |
| CriticalMass | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 09:03 PM |
It's been a few days longer than I meant to go without an update. My friend is still in the hospital. The doctors and our other friends (the couple with the husband being a retired firefighter and paramedic) are pretty sure her chances aren't good for survival even long enough to, say, go to a nursing home or assisted living. She has so many issues that it's hard to say what would be the thing to take her. Mr. Paramedic says probably one of the blood clots in her heart or lungs will dislodge and she'll have a stroke. She doesn't want to think about signing a Do Not Resuscitate order though, because she felt some years back that her siblings gave up on their mother too soon. It's all rather complicated. I pray for either a miracle or a peaceful passing when the time comes. I try to set my subconscious to dealing with anticipatory grief, and keep my conscious focused on enjoying the time we have. When she is able to talk we talk about stuff just like we always have. One day at a time, which is really all any of us gets. Joan, good to see you back. I know about the online shopping temptation. Ordered many dolls last year. Right now I'm not buying dolls at near the rate as before, but now and then. I get frustrated because I could really enjoy making clothes for them and posting photos in my Facebook doll groups - but since there's no time to do that, I tend to want to look for another doll to buy. With my friend being in a state that is stable-for-the-moment, if uncertain, and this week being less busy (last week I was doing the evenings with the 96-year-old friend), I'm doing a balance thing. Today I didn't go up to the hospital - I had thought to do laundry but was tired. Didn't want to take a nap and wake groggy though. So I went to Walmart and bought a doll. And some supplies to clean other dolls. Tomorrow I will go for awhile to quilt; the ladies know the situation - I'll give them a little update, and tell them I'll be rather hit and miss for awhile till my friends situation resolves one way or the other. In other words, if I show up, I'll be there. If not, I'll be back later. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 08:58 PM |
Hello Tillie! Yup we had sunshine and I went for a very pleasant walk after work! Thank you for helping me try to reconcile those years where I let it all go. I appreciate that. I wore my Allbirds during my walk. Joan I am sorry that your situation is so awful and I know how hard you are working. While I can never comprehend your situation, you are frequently in my thoughts. I hope you will always post here and stick around. Standing by your side. SubC tell me what flavor if ice cream you made! I'd love a scoop of strawberry. Goodnight dear friends. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 05:28 PM |
Good Afternoon Everyone Hi Subclinical WAY TO GO! getting done all you got done. Extremely elated to hear you are pursuing your passions! YUM! home made ice cream. WTG! DH, hurry and finish baseboards. 😉 Hi Tatoulia They sure are cute, too bad they didn't pass a reality test. YEA!!!!!!! 😀 finally you have sunshine!!! 😀 Please release any bad feelings you have about the past. | |
| Joan | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 04:24 PM |
It is frustrating that no-one has any grasp whatsoever of my situation. I do not talk to anyone for exactly that reason. The truth will come out someday. I can only hope that someone somewhere will get a clue about my work in this here lifetime. Everyone will eventually acknowledge the work I am doing, but that is way down the road. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 04:15 PM |
SubC! You are amazing! You do so much! I love how the book is helping to direct your focus! That is terrific! I'm very pleased. You do so much in a day and I stand in awe of you. Farming, teaching, creating, ice cream. I bet the flooring looks nice. You deserve a lovely space to live in. | |
| Subclinical | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 04:07 PM |
Joan! Hi! Glad you could post! I slept most of the weekend. So tired! After I posted I stretched out with a new book and ended up taking a three hour nap. I did go out with dh and make some cheese on Sunday - after sleeping until almost ten (poor goats!). Also made some ice cream mix, which I froze today. About half of the furniture is put back - dh is working on the baseboards. I have been reading a book called "the renaissance soul" it is not about hoarding, but it is about managing your time and planning when you are pulled 100% in many many different directions. It is very me! I am trying to use it to improve the structure in my life. The way this relates to the hoarding is that if I am passionate about x, I want all the things that go with x, and then I am also passionate about y, and z, and a, and b, and c, and pretty soon, there is no space to do any of those things and I am just curating materials and equipment. So I am supposed to pick a few areas that are my focus "right now" and block out time for them each week, and I am actually chanting "no, no, no" out loud when I am tempted to get sidetracked by something that is not on my focus list. Like, I can't do the dishes until I finish my focus items - unless the dishes are actually in my way (so I did do them because one of my focus areas right now is "health" and one of my health goals for today was to make dinner so dh didn't get carry out again.) So far, so good, but the start of everything is always the easy part. Today I cleaned stalls, patched the fence, and froze the ice cream (farm) | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 03:09 PM |
Tillie based on what you've said today, I've decided to send the yellow shoes back. I tried them on today and they will not get the kind of use I expect out of my shoes. The color and style are good, great actually, but the comfort level is a bit off. They are too narrow for my feet. So I've started the return process. I do love them but I keep looking at my stuff and they won't get the kind of use that my gold flats from Anne Klein will get, and those are about a third of the cost. I can wear those all the way into office and back home. These will not be that flexible. Thank you for asking the tough questions. I initiated the return. Goodbye, my little bits of sunshine! We have actual sunshine today. In my teen years, I preferred to fill the dishwasher rather than empty it because there wasn't enough room for stuff. Now when I empty my dishwasher, I pay attention. Thank you for saying the kind things to me. The moths was a shameful time. I'd just try to sleep at BFs and ignore what was going on here. I've had too much stuff for a long time, but I let it become unlivable here. Still a work in progress. And I enjoy the progress now. So I understand about ignoring the physical world. When I'd clean brother's apt, I'd feel so superior, meanwhile, he had no idea what was going on here. By Christmas I'd get the living spaces cleared (to my untrained eye) but now the whole house is good. My now-trained eye needs to pull it together, still more to go. Did I mention we have sunshine today??? Shocking. I'm have bedroom windows open. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 02:35 PM |
When there is just TOO MUCH STUFF! When Steven had the entire inside of the house hideously hoarded I couldn't clean or put anything away because there was no place to put things and worst of all, I could not get to my dressers or reach anything. I completely and totally zoned out. Yeah, the stuff was not mine, the hoarding was not my own personal issue (((((HUGS))))) Even squeaky clean neat & tidy homes that contain just the right amount of items get bugs, mold, rodents, leaks, holes and other issues. Thanks Tatoulia Your furniture is lovely and fits the building's era. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 06 May 2019 - 12:53 PM |
Ugh the moths. Tillie I never told anyone but they got into my oriental rugs and I threw them out. I haven't seen a moth since. They did more than their fair share of damage here. My vinyl rugs are lovely. They look nice and the cat vomit cleans up well. But the cat isn't to blame. I had so many opportunities to do things and I ignored them. I just would avoid certain spots in my home so I could pretend it wasn't happening. My kitchen is tiny. I used to have so much stuff in there including my giant old microwave, which in turn was loaded LOADED with little ceramic things and bits and bobs. Now I have just Mrs Butterworth to preside over. My furniture is a combination of things from my childhood, things I purchased as an adult and things I inherited when my friend died. I cannot wait to have my existing bookshelves built in and cabinets built below. Then they will be painted white. I'll try to make more panoramic pictures. The bedroom is fairly large and has a beautiful bow window. I have to relocate my tapestry, which is why I haven't taken a picture of it. I'll take. one of my dresser and post. My dresser used to be piled high with clothes, dirty and clean, and the chair was just a giant lump of stuff. Until you taught me to food and put away my stuff, the clean would get mixed with the dirty and then it would all fall to the floor. So gross. I have a conference call in a few minutes. I'm so sorry about the moths, Tillie. | |