THE HARD STUFF

the hard stuff
Dianne
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 11:38 AM
 

I had to walk away and decided to start a new topic.

The cleaning is now getting to the hard stuff for me. Not just tossing obvious trash. Not just sorting and getting some things put away.

Now I'm getting to the real deal ~ stuff that has been really damaged. I was going thru a pile in the upper hall. Laundry that I had tossed to do in no hurry. Well the cats have used it as a litter box. Really bugs me because we keep their boxes clean and bugs me even more that my sense of smell is obviously gone.

I threw it into a garbage bag and took it to the laundry room. I started to go thru and pull off dried poop and shake out dust and fur. I did throw away 2 shower curtains that were over 30 years old.

Other stuff is badly stained. Towels, shorts, t-shirts. This conversation started in my head. These things are so badly stained it will never come out. But you could try. But even with the hottest water and stain remover it won't. Do you really want to spend all that effort to get out stains and use up time you could be doing regular laundry? But it's good stuff. But do you really want to wear that against your skin even after you wash it? But I love these towels. If you loved them you would have taken care of them. But I can't replace those, they're part of a set and some of the others are clean in the linen closet. Some of these towels are Laura Ashley and they remind you of when Buffy was little and used them in her bathroom. You can't ever replace those. Well you just threw out the matching shower curtains.

It was like I was outside myself and I was the person in one of the hoarding shows saying but I can still use that while the rational person holds up the disgusting thing and says throw it out.

So I'm throwing 90% out. I'll try washing a pair of jeans and a t-shirt and one pair of socks that don't look too bad.

The carpet runner underneath has pee smells and dried poop. When I lifted it the smell was beyond rank and the hardwood floor is ruined.

Now I'm facing the mental things that I always try to push under. I'm an asshole, no wonder my husband left, how could I let this happen, I'm beyond irresponsible, I'm not a grown-up, I'm stupid, I have to hide, why the hell can't I take care of things, if the neighbors knew that the outside looks so nice but the inside is so gross I'd be like one of those people on tv..."oh she seemed so nice, we never thought that could happen here...". Two houses in the neighborhood are for sale, I saw the pics and they are gorgeous. So I think why the hell couldn't I have kept up my home? When I sell it will have to be as something to gut and remodel. I've blown the money that was supposed to come from the sale by destroying the house. Who does that except a total loser? Everybody was right about me growing up. I was different, didn't fit in, blah, blah, blah.

Shit I hate myself and that is just one little area.

Ok so that is my rant. It's gonna get ugly ladies. Every time I need a break from the really bad stuff I will post it here. I'm embarrassed, I'm disgusted, I'm pissed. But I'd rather be pissed than crying. Anger gives me energy.

 

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Dianne
Posted: 22 April 2013 - 10:21 PM
 

I took two bags with new clothes and dropped them in the donation bin. Tags still on. I had glanced in, recognized some pretty tops not sure what else. What I did know is that we didn't need anything in there.

Sometimes I go in Kmart for something small and come out with a full cart of clothes. Just because they were pretty. And cheap. I haven't done that for months now so I knew the clothes were from last fall or summer.

If I had taken them out to see if I wanted some and get rid of older stuff it would have overwhelmed me with decisions. All I ever wear are t-shirts and jeans anyway.

I was kind of pissy today and just wanted stuff out of here.

 
Tillie
Posted: 22 April 2013 - 06:39 PM
 

Dianne
That would be wonderful if you could just take those bags, unopened, straight to the charity.
You must not have needed those items or they would have been taken out of the bags and used by now.

If you are able to do this it would show us just how far you have come in recovering from keeping extra things. 😀

 
diane
Posted: 22 April 2013 - 01:21 PM
 

Dianne, thanks for your post, yes, I am doing clothes today and it truly is the hard stuff, and sometimes it is better to let go of it if you can. Although if you have something you like more in the bag, perhaps you could exchange it with a less favorite. We are sure in this together, thank you for sharing your secrets, helps me not feel alone.

 
Dianne
Posted: 22 April 2013 - 12:52 PM
 

Actually my thought was not to go thru those bags of new clothes ~ just take them straight to Salvation Army. 🙂

 
Tillie
Posted: 22 April 2013 - 11:01 AM
 

WTG! on a job well done! 😀
Sounds like it all worked out very well.

Now with the next part, it looks like you can have a bit of fun shopping in the hall, with all the new items you mentioned there. 🙂

 
Dianne
Posted: 21 April 2013 - 06:38 PM
 

Oh dear. Laura got home before I finished with the back hall. She was stressing that I had messed up all her neatly stacked books. She actually did have them organized pretty well and they were surprisingly clean. I guess she's been dusting.

But I had taken everything apart to vacuum the carpet runner, clean the wood edges, clean under the carpet and clean all the shelves separately. I tried to tell her that yes she had done a great job of organizing but it needed some deeper cleaning. So we sat down and got some more books put together the way she wanted them.

I dusted every book all over. There are well over 900. And we reset the shelves so they are only on one side of the hall. I think it will be easier for me to keep clean that way and it doesn't look so crowded, closing in on both sides.

A big, nice surprise ~ no pee, no poop, no dried mud, no dead insects, no bad things at all. Just a tremendous amount of dust bunnies.

I still have the middle of the upper back hall to work on. There are sheets in the packaging, more books (mine), cardboard boxes, shoes still in boxes. I'll hit that tomorrow.

Right now I'm not going to stress us with decisions about getting rid of too much. I was able to set aside a stack of extra copies Laura had and she said she could easily donate those. Laura has always wanted to have a private lending library. She got the idea from some guy in Sweden. I'm just at the tip of the iceberg with books. She reads to the dogs every night, calls it *Story Time*. I'm pretty sure once we get more clean and organized I could take Laura to a local school who would love a big book donation for kids. She can be very generous as long as she knows what she has given will be genuinely needed and appreciated.

 
Dianne
Posted: 21 April 2013 - 11:14 AM
 

Thanks Tillie and diane I really appreciate your support!! {{{HUGS}}}

I'm going to attack the rest of the upper back hall today. There are hundreds of books there. My live-in daughter is an avid reader. Although she is 33 her favorite books are Nancy Drew, Hardy Boys, Berenstain Bears and all animal stories. We ran out of room everywhere else so I got her some narrow shelving a few years ago and told her she could start building bookshelves in the hallway on one side. Meaning stacking them very carefully with the sturdy wood at intervals to keep a better balance.

So now books are stacked on both sides of the hall maybe 4 feet high and nothing has been cleaned there for about 1 1/2 years. I sure as hell hope no dogs decided to piss there!

The worst bedrooms are on either side of the hall with closed doors. There are level 4 hoards in there and I never wanted animals to get in there. They would get lost. So I have to get to another light fixture to get some light back there.

Laura is with her Dad today. When she goes out I can work without her getting stressed that I'm touching her stuff.

 
diane
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 08:18 PM
 

Dianne, it is so great to read your posts. Last week I went through that shame when I moved the refrigerator and found a huge pile of filth. I cleaned it and don't have to let it get that bad again. By admitting the filth, cleaning it up, and staying in touch, we can prevent this from happening again. Your honesty is great, keep writing and cleaning, it is helpful to read so I don't feel alone in squalor awareness.

 
Tillie
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 08:01 PM
 

Well done! 😀

The thing about any hoard is that the hoard it's self prevents regular cleaning and hides so much.
There really is no such thing as a clean hoard.
The longer the hoard exists the worse the amount of dirt accumulated and there can be unseen mold, insects, rodents and structure damage.
All invisible till you start decluttering.

Don't worry about posting whatever comes into your head here.
We do not judge on any grounds. 🙂

Personally, I really love hearing your thoughts. 🙂

 
Dianne
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 03:46 PM
 

I'm done for today.

Got the ladder again and took apart another fixture on the back stairs landing. As with the other one since it hasn't worked in over a year it was hard to take apart. Put one light bulb in. I don't fill them anymore because I try to save a little money with less bulbs. For whatever that's worth.

Filled another little vacuum cleaner bag. Lots of fur, little cat nails as they shed them from scratching and sharpening on the stairs. Lots of bits of cat litter that we have all tracked all over the place. Dried bits of mud from the dogs. I need to find the goggles in the garage to wear when doing these things that cause little bits to fly up in my face.

The back stairs are now basically clean. The only thing that most people wouldn't leave there are a huge stack of clean fleece dog beds hanging on the railing. The laundry room is on one side of the staircase so it's easy to hang the clean beds there. Then I don't have to go to the basement to the dog room when I need something for the kitchen. The other side of the back staircase opens to the familyroom. So the dog beds don't look great but from that angle but that's the least of my concerns right now.

I hated to think of myself as a dirty hoarder. It's so easy to ignore whole areas and say to myself well I keep these things clean and that's important. But I am a dirty hoarder. That is so shameful for me to admit. But how can I not admit it when I am getting into the real dirt and debris? Well at least the animals are in good shape.

So I'm going to take it easy the rest of the evening. It's been really helpful to keep typing on here and then plug thru some more. Have a good night everyone. 🙂

 
Dianne
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 02:51 PM
 

I'm stuck. I can't make any more decisions about the back hall.

So rather than sit down and give up I started on the back staircase. Got off a ton of clothes that were at one time washed and folded. Threw the whole pile back into the laundry room.

Found a knife, more plastic hangers, a roller thing to get fur off and a warranty for the back door storm door. The German Shepherds already jammed that twice and I had to pay to have it fixed. Finally I just took out the window part and let them bodyslam the metal part all they want. So that warranty is useless now.

Moved a snow shovel from the landing back to the garage. Shouldn't have any more snow to shovel from the deck for awhile. 🙂

Those stairs weren't too bad. I'll get the little vacuum cleaner around there now and do the whole staircase ~ carpet runner with hardwood floors underneath so have to get those edges.

One thing I've been a little concerned about is posting exactly what I have to deal with here. I'm aware that I have much more space and resources and time than most people. I never want to flaunt that. So as I begin to talk about specifics in terms of rooms please know that I am the same as everyone else. Mental problems. fears, insecurities, shame, guilt ~ wealth doesn't fix that.

Thank you all so much for being here and being supportive and understanding of each other. There's nowhere else to go.

 
Dianne
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 02:23 PM
 

I need the mental breaks more than the physical breaks.

Started to vacuum and remembered none of the outlets in the bathrooms upstairs work. Had to find an extension cord to plug in downstairs and run upstairs to the little vacuum cleaner.

Kept shutting my eyes so debris wouldn't snap up and fly into my eyes. Filled 2 little vacuum bags. Dug out as much dried on poop as I could.

I got about 6 feet of hallway, carpet and wood floor edges clear. And about another 4 feet of half hallway. There's maybe 20 more feet to go? I don't know. The animals are so confused.

When that is clear (maybe tomorrow) I'll try to use carpet cleaner and see if I can find some hardwood floor cleaners.

I've got all the supplies and all the good intentions. Just never got around to it.

 
Dianne
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 01:58 PM
 

I need to post every small thing here....

Got the fixture off and got one light bulb in. The fixture was so tight. I'm not sure I want to put it back on.

Thank God for that window that opened!

Found another bag of new clothes. 🙁

 
Dianne
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 01:34 PM
 

The t-shirt was no ordinary shirt. It was an Orioles Aubrey Huff #17. He doesn't play for the O's anymore.

So that sounds like a reasonable reason to keep the shirt and try to salvage it. Which it seems I have.

Is that mentality decent or is it so classic hoarder that I am bad? Not really bad you know but is it ok to try and save some things if I really can do it without too much trouble?

BTW I do have maybe 60 or more O's t-shirts. We get them for free on certain nights. Now you guys are starting to see the real hoarder in me. 🙁

 
Dianne
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 01:27 PM
 

And thank you Tillie 🙂

 
Dianne
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 01:26 PM
 

Load of clothes came out. The t-shirt is ok so are the 2 socks. The jeans had a mold stain I guess because that's just a big ol' blotch right on the butt. So the t-shirt and socks will get washed a couple more times and the jeans are trash.

I found some Christmas presents I wanted to give but had *lost*.

I found a bag of bags. I save plastic bags to put trash in. In my mind they don't make plastic like they used to. 🙂 And in our county we have to pay 5 cents for them now. I'll keep those.

I dug out new (from a year ago) cardboard moving boxes I had planned to use for storage. Moved them to the upper front hall. >:(

Found a big bag of really good plastic hangers that I didn't want to get rid of. But most of my clothes are in piles since all the hanging space is taken so what will I use these hangers for? They are too good to throw out. >:(

Got it! I will take them to the Salvation Army. I bet they can always use more hangers since they get donated clothes that need to be hung for sale.

And I can get a ladder up there now. I have a 75 watt light bulb to put in the fixture that has been out for a year. It will force me to see just what's there and try to clean that carpet and floor.

 
Tillie
Posted: 20 April 2013 - 11:55 AM
 

(((HUGS)))

We are all here for you.

Toss, toss, toss. Do not waste your time and energy trying to save things that are so soiled they may never come clean.
Some things may look clean but to others may still retain the smell of cat urine.

Be tough on yourself but also remember you are a person deserving of love and tenderness and a healthy home.

 
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