| Tillie | Posted: 19 May 2014 - 09:54 AM |
Lets see if a new thread will help solve some of the posting issues we have developed in the first, long running thread π | |
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| Dianne | Posted: 27 August 2014 - 12:39 PM |
Hey Bitsy, I didn't work with professionals. I didn't want big trucks out front and I couldn't deal with a 3 day clean-out. There are 2 companies that do outside work for me (landscaping and pool services) and a couple of the guys had helped me with things on the side. I've known them for years and took the chance of inviting them in and asking for help. They were very kind. I also accepted help from my brothers' families. One is extremely religious but in a good way ~ they totally walk their talk. There is only love, acceptance, no judgment. Doesn't mean I still didn't feel ashamed but that was on me not them. My sister-in-law did something very loving. After they had distributed things to disadvantaged people they work with, she asked the recipients to write thank you notes to me. She delivered the notes to me in a pretty box. Rather than feeling sad about what I had *lost* I had tangible evidence of how those things had brightened other peoples' lives. It made me feel so good. Although some payment was cash most of the payment was bartering. I have a vacation place to offer, I have access to good seats for major sporting events, I'm a good cook and I offered the use of my outdoor property for some pool parties and cookouts. There were valuable items I didn't need so the guys could sell them on ebay or craigslist and keep the money. I offered to do laundry or dog sit. I have two trucks and the county where I live allows its' residents free dumping in trash, yard waste and several recycling areas. Many years ago I had a dear cleaning woman. She learned how to clean and speak English here and my girls would play with her little boys while she worked. She and her now grown sons came in and did deep cleaning for me. The whole process took almost 3 months, time for me to adjust or say I need a break. I was out of the house most of the time caring for another family member. That was the catalyst that got me going. I knew there was no way I could be gone for many hours a day and the resulting physical exhaustion without the house really backsliding. There were many adjustments in my personal life ~ physical, mental, emotional and spiritual. It's very hard and it will be ongoing. There is still work to be done. Lots of damage from the animals. But I'm reluctant to put money into refinishing floors or reupholstering furniture as 11 out of the 15 are seniors/geriatric. Two bedrooms still have stuff. But I'm pretty much wiped out for now. Those things can wait. All our situations are different. Whether it's baby steps, calling in the experts, or pushing thru by ourselves we do the best we can. Every time we feel hopeless it is so important to remember those feelings WILL turn around. Check out the life of Nick Vujicic. He has learned to live his best life as well as learning to accept help on a daily basis. He says he keeps a pair of shoes in his closet because he believe in miracles. Find examples of inspiration and fill your free time with that. This battle to overcome all that drags us down starts in our minds. My little mantra is *clean and fresh, clear and light*. Accept the inevitable sad times but don't enjoy the comfort of wallowing. Every moment there is something to be grateful for. God bless ~~ | |
| Tillie | Posted: 27 August 2014 - 12:08 PM |
Good Morning π Hi Dianne π Hi Diane π Hi Tatoulia π Hi Bitsy π Hi Karl π Hi Everyone else π About back sliding... I decided to take the day off. TTYL π | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 27 August 2014 - 09:39 AM |
So happy to hear your energy is back, Tillie, and that you feel like yourself again! Diane, I'm glad you have your schedule. I find that when I don't know my schedule, I feel like I can't make any plans or accomplish anything til I know what my week wi!l look like. I hate feeling like I'm being held hostage by the unknown and am actively working to break that pattern of mine Dianne, I understand your fears of backsliding. I have to fight to see my living spaces as they are, so I don't let things creep back in. I really just open my eyes and look. I am amazed that dining room table clutter free, nothing on the floors in any room, things put away....but wait, what's that pile of papers on my end table? I will attend to that now. Have a wonderful day, all. Keep up the good work! | |
| Karl | Posted: 26 August 2014 - 11:21 PM |
Diane, I've found that if you call a creditor to explain that the payment was sent but it arrived late, they'll often cancel the late fee as a courtesy. Give it a try. And then make sure that the next payments are early; you can't depend on getting the courtesy twice in a row. | |
| diane | Posted: 26 August 2014 - 08:28 PM |
just got home from going to a friends house that I work with. She graciously printed off my schedule for me, she is very computer literate. I am so relieved to have my schedule and know I will have enough work. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 26 August 2014 - 07:36 PM |
Just a quick hello to everyone to tell you how much I appreciate your wisdom and candor and friendship. I just got home and upon walking into my clean kitchen, I felt good about myself. I'm not done by any means but I could have just about anyone in my house right now. They'd have to use Diane's or Tillie's bathroom, however. I vow to work on my dreaded closet. I am almost out of excuses. I can hear Tillie's words echoing in my head, you will be glad once you've reclaimed that space. Take care, all. Stay strong. Special wishes to Bitsy. Click the link, make the calls, and get some help. We will stand by your side step by step. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 26 August 2014 - 06:28 PM |
Hi Bitsy π | |
| diane | Posted: 26 August 2014 - 05:44 PM |
bitsy, your honesty is inspiring. Did you look at the tabs at the top of this page, has resources for helping clean out houses. Great idea to pay to have cleaning company clean it out, have it done, and sell house.Hard to focus on your needs when you are taking care of so many people! Take good care of yourself. | |
| bitsy | Posted: 26 August 2014 - 04:00 PM |
Hi everybody. My son is out of the hospital on the 21st. Things are not great. We are staying in a $200.00 a week extended stay motel. trying to figure out what to do and how to get it done. He is not in as much pain but is having trouble getting supplies for colostomy and wound care. The bottom part of his surgical wound reopened while he was still in the hospital. it is about the size of a half dollar and is draining. He is also trying to apply for Medicaid and other assistance since he is not insured and will not be able to work till after the reverse surgery in December and it's already been a month since he was able to work. zero income. So we have not been over to the SE metro Atlanta house to make "goat paths" from front door to "his" two rooms and bathroom. We have gone over long enough for me to take care of the 2 cats. Hopefully, when I get time I can pay neighbor guy to help with that. soon. Just so the new people know my situation. I am 70 yrs old. have trouble walking more than about twenty feet at a time do to circulation problems. and other medical problems. The last 5 to 7 yrs I have spent time and money helping 6 unemployed adult close relatives and 2 infant, now preschool great grand-kids, through the bad economic times. ("good excuses" for being distracted from my own issues). So now I have two 7 room houses, one with basement and one with large storage shed, both full of stuff and trash. I have been overwhelmed and depressed forever. Something is always happening. When I first found this sight (maybe in June) I was trying to decide what professional company I thought I could trust to help me de-hoard the NE Metro house so I could try to sell it. Property tax statement just came in the mail. $2000.00+. $1000.00+ due by end of September other half due in November. Anyway this is getting too long and we have to get going. But It seems like maybe Dianne and Roxie and maybe some others know something about choosing and working with professionals. and not stressing out because I can't do baby steps or go slowly. I don't know anywhere else to turn for support and advice. | |
| diane | Posted: 26 August 2014 - 01:44 PM |
Dianne I am so grateful to read your post and how beautiful your house is again and the happiness you and daughter can have in your clean house. I have had a difficult time with maintenance, which is why I fear the hoard will return in living area, so I can relate. Would hiring a cleaning woman 2 times a month solve that for you? | |
| Tillie | Posted: 26 August 2014 - 11:32 AM |
Good Morning Everybody! π Had some unexpected but very welcome rain last evening. The people travel right through my area to get there and again to leave. Yesterday I watered everything outside then came in and cleaned the house properly. So GREAT to read the posts this morning! π Time for me to get moving, the washing machine is done, need to hang wash & start on some more wash loads. TTYL π | |
| Dianne | Posted: 26 August 2014 - 09:23 AM |
Hello to all, My schedule isn't as rigid anymore so I hope to post more frequently. Tat, thank you for your very kind words, it's good to meet you too! π Now that my house is hoard-free with the exception of 2 bedrooms I am starting to worry that I'll backslide. It's more of a mental struggle. I almost don't even want to post about that. I have been trying very hard to smack the negative thoughts right out. Someone coming in would probably say that I still have a lot of stuff. But it's clean, tidy. and everything has a place. My live-in daughter has always been a sweetheart about whatever the condition of the house is but I definitely see more energy in her wanting to keep things nice now. My married daughter is delighted! Although her schedule has gotten so much busier with work and school she has been very careful not to ask me to watch her kids so much. I'm pretty sure she wants me to keep up with things in my own home. The younger cats are still adjusting. I've put out some travel crates, halved and set so there are some *caves* to run into, until they feel safer with all the open space. The older cats have been fine and the dogs are cool too. Roxie, I kept thinking of you during the whole process. When you first came here you had had a major clean out with help. I finally wanted to be there. I needed major forward movement and thank you for that inspiration! On a different front our Baltimore Orioles are in first place in the AL east and our Washington Nats are in first place in the NL east. We're hoping for a Battle of the Beltways in the World Series! π take care everybody ~~ | |
| LR2014 | Posted: 25 August 2014 - 10:15 PM |
Happy Monday evening. I just got back from a gathering of friends and family members of my loved one who passed away last week. There were some people I hadn't seen in literally over a decade, and it was wonderful to finally see one another face to face again. Rather than being a time of crying, the gathering was fairly joyful (as these things go). The actual funeral service is likely to be more somber, of course. Most of my posted goals for yesterday got shifted to today. Got some of them done while on chat this afternoon. Also got a little bit of kitchen work done. Melody, I'm glad you're joining us here on the message board! I probably won't get much done tomorrow in terms of clutter and cleaning because of family matters. I hope to get back on a more regular schedule starting Wednesday or Thursday. Hugs to all. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 25 August 2014 - 09:25 PM |
Hello everyone! Diane, what a lovely day you had! I hope you stayed peaceful and avoided the roof! That was such a nice picture you painted of walking around the lake with your friend. Melody, during my recent de cluttering, (which I secretly call "de-sh*#%Β£ing the house,") I got rid of many, many cards and letters. I had this moment where I realized I was keeping them to prove that I was loved. And so, I was able to throw out cards from the bookkeeper at my job from 20 years ago, when I had my appendix out (that's an extreme example, of course, but it is something I'd kept all these years) as well as scads of Christmas and Birthday cards. I was able to get rid of almost all of them. Kept one from my father, one from each grandmother, and pretty much tossed the rest. I don't know your reasons for hanging into the paperwork, but honestly, for me,as soon as I realized my reasons for keeping these things that clutter my life, I was free. I feel very lucky and don't even miss a one. Tillie, I so wanted to clean my bathroom today but day got away from me. All trash is out, all recyclables out, had to throw out plants on window boxes (too gangly) and vacuumed bedroom. Kitchen still clean and orderly. What a pleasure to cook and not have to move the piles from the stove. Nothing on the counters or stove, and nothing in the sink. Another moment of freedom. Then went to my mother's to help her with an unexpected problem. Much love to everyone. Hope to hear from you soon. | |
| diane | Posted: 25 August 2014 - 07:14 PM |
Hello all. Tillie happy to hear you are feeling better, since you are doing a lot today, I assume you are feeling good. | |
| Melody | Posted: 25 August 2014 - 05:52 PM |
Thanks, Tatoulia, for the congrats and the welcome. π Thank you, Karl! I will indeed try to be here Tuesday night. And will stop by in the meantime. Tillie, I appreciated this morning's "Remember to smile and laugh as you work through things today." I needed that. Today I worked my way through several shoe boxes stuffed with paper junk (old bills & such) and a suitcase full (35-year accumulation) of greeting cards & letters. Hooray for progress! There's still soooo much yet to be done, but hey... baby steps, right? One day at a time... | |
| Karl | Posted: 25 August 2014 - 04:52 PM |
Hi, Melody, sorry to hear you had problems with the support chat. I hope you'll try again for the Tuesday support. Feel free to stop in during non-official meet hours, too; some of us might be there for buddy-system decluttering. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 25 August 2014 - 11:08 AM |
Good morning, Tillie. Glad you have cooler weather. We've enjoyed a fairly mild summer in the east but this week heating up to the 90s. I think I'll follow your lead today and clean bathroom. I'll report back on my progress! | |
| Tillie | Posted: 25 August 2014 - 10:39 AM |
Good Morning Everybody π Have the water going in the flower garden right now & when that's done I will go out and water the trees& bushes. Remember to smile and laugh as you work through things today. π | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 25 August 2014 - 06:40 AM |
Congratulations, Melody, on your pregnancy AND on finding this group. You've come to the right place. The support I've gotten here allowed me to make drastic changes in the amount of stuff I have. And I had a lot, believe me. And before I found this group, I had cleaned out a trash hoarder's apartment (it took me six weeks of daily visits--but could only do a few hours at a time since I couldnt/wouldn't/shouldn't use his bathroom). Glad to see you here! | |
| Melody | Posted: 25 August 2014 - 12:54 AM |
Hello, everyone! Melody in northwest Arkansas. Hoarder & child of hoarder (my mother). I'm 19 weeks pregnant (my husband & I have been married 11 years now, but this will be our firstborn), and I'm trying not to panic about my clutter situation. I still have so much to do before this baby comes! I have GOT to clear out a LOT more space than I have thus far. I try to get a little bit done every day, but don't feel like I'm making enough progress. It's such a massive, daunting task... and most days I just feel completely overwhelmed. I was able to "attend" the beginning of tonight's meeting/chat but then lost my connection (we've got satellite internet out here). I've just discovered this support group and I'm so glad to have found it... I am in dire need of some support, encouragement, and inspiration... and I am already finding that here. I mean, don't get me wrong -- my husband is plenty supportive... but he doesn't truly understand what it's like, mentally / emotionally, dealing with all this STUFF. As I read through some of the threads on these message boards, I am already feeling "at home" here. π So nice to "meet" you all. | |
| Karl | Posted: 24 August 2014 - 11:09 PM |
Sorry to have missed so much of tonight's chat -- there were still a few other people here when I returned, but they were all in the process of leaving. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 24 August 2014 - 02:00 PM |
GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY π So GREAT to "SEE" you all here. Been playing with this new computer. Customizing things and trying to get used to this new keyboard. Looking forward to "seeing" you all tonight in chat. | |
| bitsy | Posted: 24 August 2014 - 12:40 PM |
ROXIE, THANK YOU FOR POSTING! I MISSED YOU AND WAS CONCERNED. | |
| Tatoulia | Posted: 24 August 2014 - 11:37 AM |
Good to catch up on everyone's posts. Yesterday I made no progress on my place but I did get family obligations taken care of and spent time with a girlfriend. Today I dealt with a bag of stuff I'd thrown in my closet about two, three years ago. Wasn't as bad as I'd built it up in my mind and 80% can go to goodwill. Keeping only four silk scarves and some antique embroidered quilt squares. The rest is leaving town today. My brother will take me to goodwill. I could take myself but my brother is isolated and it gives him something to do. So I get things out of my house and he gets himself out of his house. Frequently we stop for a cool drink such as a seltzer so it gives us a nice little outing. | |
| LR2014 | Posted: 24 August 2014 - 10:21 AM |
Good morning! So great to hear from everybody. Roxie, we've missed you so much, and it's so great to know that you are well enough to be posting again! Many, many, many, many hugs! Thinking about you and your situation, bitsy! Tillie, I'm glad you have a new laptop! I hope you really enjoy it! diane, I'm glad to know you are taking more and more steps to have fun! I'm glad you tried the "boiling water on the ants" technique. I'd been meaning to suggest that one. Hope it helps. I have a lot of other comments I'd like to make to others, but I'll save them for now. Still dealing with details related to the upcoming funeral for my relative. It will be held early this week. In part because of preparation for the funeral and in part because of other (more upbeat) reasons, I might not be at chat tonight. We'll see. I do hope the new people who joined us Tuesday night are able to come to tonight's chat! I spent much of the day away from home yesterday and didn't get a lot of cleaning or decluttering done. (Got a little laundry dealt with, but not much else.) Did get a fair amount of cleaning and maintenance work done the two previous days, though, with the help of those on chat. Today, I plan to add to my gratitude list, spend some more time cleaning out my vehicle, make sure I have appropriate clothes ready for the services, and spend some more time scanning some family pictures. I will probably also get together with family members today, as I often do on Sunday. Have a great day, everyone! | |
| Tillie | Posted: 23 August 2014 - 09:47 PM |
So GREAT to read all your posts! π Diane pour some pinesol or some other cleaning type liquid down where smoothie spilled through the boards. The ants will hate it & not consider it food. Well... Anyways, π WAY TO GO!!! Everybody for posting, resting, playing, eating, for whatever you did today and for being a part of our little online family. π Oh WOW! I have spell check. LOL | |
| diane | Posted: 23 August 2014 - 08:39 PM |
I got a phone call so sent last post before I was done, since I learned to send sooner or can lose post. This morning I worked in yard a little, had some fun, then thought, I would try using a newer cement like duct sealant to make rock sculptures. I did several and had so much fun. Went up on roof and poured a gallon of water on the roof where I thought the leak was coming from. I was wrong. Decided I really did not want to work today so that is why I did the rocks, just time to have some fun before I get too frustrated. I called a friend and cleared up some things that caused some discomfort, worked out great, feel close again and we are going to a lake on Monday and walk around it, maybe 3 miles, will be good to be in nature, been too long. | |
| diane | Posted: 23 August 2014 - 08:09 PM |
Best part of my day was reading your note Roxie. I think of you every day and was hoping you were in hospital getting healthy. So relieved to hear you are home and know to take it easy. No smoking by oxygen, that is what I feared happened when you did not post for days, so relieved you are ok. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 23 August 2014 - 07:13 PM |
ROXIE!!!! π | |