| Gem | Posted: 04 June 2014 - 11:17 AM |
Our AC is acting up and after our encounter with the paramedic I posted about in the Cleanup Help section we're scared to death to call any AC repair places but being we live in the south going without the AC could kill us. I'm not sure what do to. Anyone have any suggestions? Here's the link to my previous post for reference. http://hoardingcleanup.com/message_board/?msgbrd=3&topic=8611 | |
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| Gem | Posted: 10 November 2014 - 12:41 AM |
My Mom has been seeing a cancer specialist off and on. She's ok in the head but physically is the issue and it's hard getting to places. She drives and I don't but we only really go out for Dr's appointments. I get her to the car and out and she drives to and from the Dr's offices. I actually still don't know how to drive because we've never been able to afford 2 people on the insurance and there's never been anyone to teach me and I felt guilty trying to put that on my Mom's shoulders. We don't have any friends or family. Nobody wants to be friends with sick people, it's hard for sick people to be social enough to make friends and as for family they don't care at all. The ones who did passed away long ago. The hill we live on isn't a big one and to most everyone else it would look so small. It's a regular neighborhood but the house is built on the hill and trying to go up and down it when one has balance issues can be anxiety inducing. Which is what I think part of my dizzy spells are from. The home health quit coming partly because of the house and because my Mom wasn't going to the Dr regularly enough for them. Knowing she had cancer and was having trouble getting to the Dr. the R.N. nurse kept trying to discharge her ALL the time saying she wasn't bad off enough to need their care. One day they just didn't come back and we never heard from them again. Which I don't understand at all but of course they'd come in, wouldn't stay long and then would leave. The social worker wouldn't talk to me in front of my Mom and I couldn't make him. So I could never prove the jail thing he said to me unless he admitted it. When I told my Mom what he said she called him once and bitched him out. He had never spoken to her before. His only reply was to whine and said to quit harassing him. *SIGH* The one neighbor we do know from before Katrina who still lives next door isn't really the kind of person who'd help with anything like this. He's kind of wrapped up in his own life. The others we don't know and never have talked to since we finally got back into our home in 2012. That's a whole other story of how we might be loosing it because it was sold in a tax sale while we were stuck in a FEMA trailer and we were never notified of the sale. It's so complicated but we don't own our home anymore even though it was purchased and paid for in 98. We have legal help with that though. I'm scared to mention the hoarding issues to her Dr's because they might call APS right then and there and I don't know what either of us would do if that happened. I should have called APS/Community Services/etc. last year before it got this bad but that social worker scared the crap out of me. There's twice weekly trash pickup but I can't get that can to and from the house. I could get it down because I'd be able to lean on it but on the way back up would be trouble. The house is hoarded with mostly trash bags of trash neither of us could get out there and boxes some folded up from ordering food and household items online since we can't really go inside stores anymore. It's been the two of us for so long and that was ok until my Mom got sicker and I started getting sick. I aspirated during gastro tests a couple years ago, was in an induced coma for 2 weeks, spent time in a specialty hospital and then a nursing home for rehab which I had to leave early due to insurance even though I wasn't ready. Then due to a UTI I had in the nursing home that never went away a few weeks after I got out I ended up in the hospital with urinary sepsis. Ever since then balance, endurance, dizziness and etc have been issues. Not long after I started getting around better is when my Mom had to have a kidney removed due to cancer and when we got home from that last Summer is when the hoarding started in force and has gotten so bad since. I can only get to the fridge in the kitchen now so we usually order pizza or whatever for dinner then snack earlier in the day. We order some stuff from Schwan's Delivery Service but as mentioned with the mess now in the kitchen too cooking really isn't an option. Ugh I know what I need to do but it gets so tiring getting blamed, criticized and to be made to feel like a really capitalistic worthless person by people who's jobs are to help. This time of the year is the worst because there's the tv movies, commercials and etc. celebrating holiday togetherness, miracles and all that stuff. Then for my Mom and me it's another year alone knowing nobody would care if both of us died. It would be humiliating to be dead and the state of this house was the last thing anyone remembered about us. | |
| Dianne | Posted: 06 November 2014 - 10:39 AM |
Hi Gem, I'm so sorry you are having such a hard time. It sounds like with the health difficulties of you and your mom there must be some type of intervention and you want that help. This is just my opinion, but I don't think APS would put you in jail. Maybe the social worker meant you would be held responsible for elder neglect since your mother is in your care but you need help as well. Since you are not able to care for your mother or yourself it doesn't appear to be a jail-able offense. To be safe google Volunteer Lawyers Project and contact the one nearest to you. It shocks me too that all those EMS people could come to your home and then walk away. Can you google community services in your area to see what kind of help may be available? Not just for a hoard clean out but for ongoing health care. Is your mother seeing a cancer specialist? Can you talk to her doctor about getting help? Whatever the other *huge secret* is you don't need to talk about it here. If things keep going downhill it's going to come out eventually in real life. It may be better to admit it to someone now before it gets worse. Do your have family members who could help? What about church groups? Since your neighbors have already called the police could you ask one of them to help? I'm not talking about help you clean out. I'm talking about finding help for you like which groups could intervene. Sometimes even looking things up can be very stressful and exhausting. If you live in an area that is well populated there may be good options. As a last resort you could google National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. It isn't just for imminent suicide help. They are there to help with the desperate situations of life and may be able to give you numbers or names in your area. At the very least they are professionals who are dedicated to getting people help. The would never laugh or minimize your problems. I understand your desperation and the slow decline that is so frightening. Don't stop reaching out for help. You can express your emotions here and get support. But for the help you need in real life there will be someone for you and your mother. Don't give up. Let us know how you are. God bless ~ Dianne | |
| dave | Posted: 06 November 2014 - 09:11 AM |
Is the home health service still available as part of your mother's care, and if so, would you be able to have a social worker come again to talk with you about any assistance options that may be available to you in your area? Are you able to see any service agencies for seniors or disabled in your area that you can discuss your needs with? Do you have any extended family members who could offer any assistance? Do you have a church affiliation where you could discuss your situation with the pastor? Is there a boy scout troop that might be able to provide some help in relation to getting merit badges for the scouts? Are you affording a weekly trash service? If so, what can you do to get someone to come each week to help you get the trash can filled? Are there any annual neighborhood or community cleanup days/weeks that you might be able to tie to your cleanup needs in some way? (And if so, what kind of a plan could you develop to get from now to then?) Elks, masons, rotarians, etc? | |
| Mel99 | Posted: 06 November 2014 - 07:25 AM |
Also, it seems to me if it was likely that your situation would lead to you being arrested under some definition of elder abuse, they would have done that yesterday. Right? I'm not a legal expert but it certainly seems that way. | |
| Mel99 | Posted: 06 November 2014 - 07:23 AM |
Gem, I am so very sorry that all that happened/is happening to you. It's really frustrating that the cops and everyone couldn't even give you a referral or suggestion or something to help you. Unfortunately it sounds like they just want you to move the boxes and pick up the mail so they don't have to make another trip out there (I'm guessing the reason they came out is because either the mail carrier or someone else reported that something might have happened to you). And with you both being sick, I really don't know what you're supposed to be able to do. Even if they didn't have anyone they could refer you to, I still think they could have told you that. For the mail, do you have a car? Could you drive to the bottom of the hill to get the mail? Does anything help your dizzy spells? I wish I could offer any other ideas or suggestions. When I first came to the board it made me feel so sad and frustrated for people to see all the people who come looking for help who really want to get out of their situation but just don't have the money/resources to do it. It feels like there should be something but I don't know what. I think most people just don't understand how we "let" things get this way and they're more interested in blaming us than helping us. I wish I could do something to help. | |
| Gem | Posted: 06 November 2014 - 02:35 AM |
A few weeks ago someone called the police on us and I didn't answer the door when they first came out because I wasn't sure who it was. The 2nd time they came out it wasn't just them, they brought along firemen and paramedics. I answered the door and told them we had a few boxes outside our door that had been delivered because I was too tired to bring them all in when they arrived due to a couple of them being heavy. In with the cops there was one woman one and she yelled to everyone else who were men "Sorry boys!" as in sorry that they all had to come out for nothing. The policemen at the door kept asking me questions and making me feel awful for having boxes outside the door, the other thing was our mailbox was overflowing because we live on a hill and my Mom is to sick to go out there to the box and all and I have been having awful dizzy spells for awhile and can't go out there either. I don't know if mine is anxiety or what. The cop asked to come in to see if my Mom was ok and alive after I told them she slept in a hospital bed where she was napping. I told them then and there that our house was hoarded and we needed help. Two of the cops came in to see that my Mom was ok/alive and then turned to leave and go out the door. They got on me some more about the packages and mail to which I replied almost in tears that we needed help so badly. They didn't care and after they were done reaming me out about the mail and etc. they left. I stood in the doorway a couple minutes in shock that all the cops, the 2 fire trucks and the ambulance that had just been there all left without offering to get us any type of assistance or to refer us to anyone who might be able to help at all. It's so bad in here that stuff keeps falling and I have to pick it all up. My Mom is to sick to help at all and I can't do much of anything without getting extremely tired and dizzy. We have no dining chairs or anything I could sit on while picking stuff up and I don't know what to do anymore. My Mom will probably have to have major cancer surgery soon because it's spread and she doesn't deserve to have to recover or live like this and honestly neither do I but there is no way I can do it alone. I can't even do it little by little. We're desperate for help but there doesn't seem to be anything out there in this area at all. A whole lot of stuff fell tonight and my Mom tried to help pick some of it up because I was kind of stuck where I was but I told her to go in her room and I'd pick up the rest because I didn't want her to hurt herself. We can't live like this anymore. There's another huge secret too but I'm scared to admit what it is because of how bad it is. We need help so bad but I'm scared what that social worker who worked for the home health my Mom said last year about if the Adult Protection Services came out is true that I'd probably go to jail. I'm not well enough mentally or physically for jail. 🙁 | |
| Eva | Posted: 19 July 2014 - 02:15 AM |
Hi all! I'm glad you got your AC fixed Gem. I just got mine repaired today also. I am new to admitting I am "not normal" so I'm sorry to not have anything helpful to add although I'm posting in your thread. I've spent the last two weeks trying to clear out space around the AC/furnace and then widening the paths to the back and side walls of the basement so the repair man could have access to the areas he needed to work in. I really disliked having to do it. I had great difficulty letting go of my children's clothes or toys from when they were younger. I realize the sentimental attachment I have to everything that belonged to them is not normal and that I do not lose them or the memories of them by giving these things away. I also tend to feel the need to save things to pass to them/their children in case the find themselves living through economic hardship the way I have for much of my life. I have been forced to let go of almost all their clothes to make room for this AC situation. It helped that i found a donation place that funds a shelter for abused women and their children. This knowing that my donations helped those in such great need has been instrumental is forcing myself to part with things. Much still remains though as I feel like I've only taken a teacup out of the sea. I do like to see the areas of extra empty space that has been created. But now that the motivating AC crisis is past i hope I can self motivate and self discipline to keep whittling away at the piles so I can try to turn this problem around ... However slowly... Because intellectually I know how it will end up if I don't . I want to thank everyone for sharing their stories. It has helped me to know that although I am not normal, at least i am not alone. And if others have bailed themselves out a teacup at a time, then I can too. Namaste! | |
| Roxie | Posted: 12 July 2014 - 04:06 PM |
I'm so glad you came back and updated us, and that you are cool again. I do agree with LR's suggestion that you join the online group and, at the very least, get the encouragement to move forward in any way at all. | |
| LR2014 | Posted: 12 July 2014 - 03:50 PM |
Gem, I'm so glad to hear back from you, to know that you are OK, and that you got your air conditioning fixed! (Yea!) I had been thinking about you and your situation. Thank you so much for posting this update!!! Join us for the online support group (see button at right) on Sunday nights and Tuesday nights if you have the chance and would like to do so. It's a great opportunity to chat with others of us who have the same issues. It's "cool" to hear that you are cool now! | |
| Gem | Posted: 12 July 2014 - 01:32 PM |
Also the AC guy who came said his dad moved into a senior living complex and since he got onto Medicaid/Medicare that a cleaning service comes twice a week and does some cleaning in his home for free twice a week. He didn't know if it had to do with his Dad's insurance or something the senior living complex had set up. | |
| Gem | Posted: 12 July 2014 - 01:22 PM |
The guy came and was real nice and didn't even care about the mess since he didn't need to reach the breaker box to do repairs. The bad news concerning the AC was the price of the repair. My Mom and I split the cost between us because in this area you can't go without air and the total would have been the same price as about 3 window units if found on sale. The AC is working better now then it has in a long time then I can remember so it must have been on it's way to conking out for awhile. During the AC stuff I contacted a couple personal organizers I found on a site that were the nearest to us and only one of them replied and was concerned enough to ask if we had found anyone to repair the AC. After the guy came, the heat exhaustion went away and I could think well enough to word a reply I emailed her back and told her we still needed help with our hoarding situation. In my reply back to her after I wrote the first time I had explained our financial situation, a situation we have regarding our home that we're going to ongoing hearings for that isn't related to how it looks on the inside or outside and that my Mom has kidney cancer. I don't think she believed how bad it is or she did and ignored my reply. So I waited a week and a half and wrote again and said that I guess I left her without knowing what to say but that if she knew anyone at all who could help with a more intense situation it would be greatly appreciated. Her final reply to me was wanting pictures, saying if needed she could bring a 2nd organizer with her but for each of them it would be $225.00 an hour. I never wrote back after that. Our home is to the point where it would be dangerous if we tried to do much of the cleaning due to our health conditions and how if you try and move to much of the stuff it causes a ripple effect and things tumble and fall. I just don't know what to do anymore. When my Mom still had home health one of the social workers tried to send the Adult Protective Services out here after he reported me but we never answered the door and they quit trying to come. We never answered the door because the social worker told me the last time he was out that there was a chance I could go to jail because I was the one who was less sick out of the two of us. Since it's just my Mom and me she would have been stuck here alone and she was also scared like I was because neither of us want or wanted me to go to jail. Sorry this is so very long but I wanted to update, be honest somewhere to someone and just get everything off of my chest. Neither of us can stand living this way any longer. | |
| Dave | Posted: 01 July 2014 - 07:52 AM |
Eva, | |
| Eva | Posted: 01 July 2014 - 12:15 AM |
Hi, I'm new! I can relate to this post because our AC is broke and needs to be replaced also, whole AC-furnace unit. My basement has been the place that I've been storing things for over 20 years. Just the spots he needs to work and access involve daunting de cluttering tasks and I feel I can't get it done fast enough. The difficulty letting go of things has made me consider that I'm beyond messy. I'm not a candidate for the hoarder show yet, but I can't have people over and I'm on that path if I don't turn it around now. I've been reading a lot here the last few days and it has helped me. Thank you all for sharing. | |
| diane | Posted: 07 June 2014 - 06:38 PM |
love my window air conditioner | |
| whew! | Posted: 05 June 2014 - 03:33 PM |
Gem, I see others have spoken, so I guess I will be saying some of the same things....1st--I'm thrilled you called someone. 2nd--in the meantime, yes, most definitely get to a cool place. I grew up in the South, and now live in the Southwest, and hot weather can do bad things fast. On the emotional level--One of the things I've noticed is the feelings of shame that then lead to the feelings of "I don't deserve..." So please keep us posted. And please take care. | |
| Barb | Posted: 05 June 2014 - 10:48 AM |
Here is the WebMD link for heatstroke. | |
| Roxie | Posted: 04 June 2014 - 10:44 PM |
Gem, can you get a window air conditioning unit installed for now? That is what I intend to do as I cannot afford repairs to central ac. Then limit your living to the ac room or rooms until you can do a big repair, after figuring out how to get to the breaker. Meanwhile, do you have room fans you can run? Spray bottles you can mist yourself regularly with? Drink as much water as you can. If you have sports drinks, get electrolytes into yourself as often as you need or more. Limit your caffeine and alcohol intake. Take lukewarm or slightly cooler baths or sponge baths. Place cool damp washcloths on your foreheads. Spend as much time as you can in air conditioned places like the library, the mall, the car, movie theaters, etc. Sleep in the coolest part of the evening. If you can afford, spend a night or two at a motel. Or at a friend or relative's place. | |
| LR2014 | Posted: 04 June 2014 - 10:02 PM |
Gem, I've been reading your posts. Glad you called them! Keep us posted on how things are going. | |
| Gem | Posted: 04 June 2014 - 09:59 PM |
I did earlier. Just hoping all goes ok. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 04 June 2014 - 06:20 PM |
Call the AC repair man and have him come out and look at the situation. | |
| Gem | Posted: 04 June 2014 - 05:38 PM |
It's 88 degrees in our home right now even with fans on and we don't have anywhere to go or anyone to help us. I wonder how much work an AC guy could do without getting to the breaker box? I don't want to die in here. 🙁 | |
| Gem | Posted: 04 June 2014 - 01:54 PM |
That's the problem. I think there are more breaker switches that control the AC behind a mass of stuff that we can't move ourselves. There are two breaker switches on the AC unit itself inside the closet thing where it's located in the hall. I'm trying to find out online if those 2 breaker switches control everything but can't fine out. We literally can't get to the box ourselves and I can't imagine what could happen if we tried to. Getting overheated and hurting ourselves. This sucks so bad. | |
| Tillie | Posted: 04 June 2014 - 11:26 AM |
Repair men have seen just about everything and they really don't care what state the house is in just as long as they can easily get to the areas they need to get into to do the repair work. | |