Good morning -

Subclinical - living without waste is not easy! That is admirable. How long did it take to get to this point. I used to follow a frugal blog. Her goal was zero waste. She posted pictures of her waste each week and explained each item and how she could prevent it going forward. I don't think that blog is around anymore, but it would be interesting to follow someone else.

Today I gathered a big bag of garbage from my bedroom. I'm going to change the sheets when I get a break and move my books to the new bookshelf. I'd like to give all the floors a quick sweep and then I'll call it a day. Tonight is date night. I'm not really looking forward to it. The company isn't the problem. It's pushing myself out of my comfort zone. I feel like all I've been doing lately is leaving my comfort zone. I'm going to make myself get pretty and go anyway. Wish me luck!

Good Morning 🙂

Going to get all the way up to 70 degrees today with some cloudiness.
Planning to go out and water some things since somethings are still doing well and have some blooms.
Also will take litter boxes outside and wash them out.
Soon the hoses will all be shut off and insulated for the Winter and washing litter boxes is harder to do then.
Guess I will wait until all the leaves have fallen before I do anything about them, but will have to sweep the porch so all the leaves there don't get tracked inside. 🙂
I leave the fallen leaves in the flower beds because they insulate the plants and help keep them from freezing to death over Winter.
Really need to bring in the electric space heater radiators but Steven has put so much stuff in the way that it is now impossible to reach where they are stored. 🙁

Hi Tess, not at all.

One of my triggers is environmental/waste. I try really hard to avoid garbage in the first place, and in February I cancelled our trash service. The vast majority of our waste is packaging, and the majority of that comes from the grocery store. Since I do almost all of the grocery shopping, I try not to buy things in non-recyclable packaging. One current exception is nuts - they come in a quart ziplock bag. Anything that might smell bad gets zipped into a nut bag before going in the trash can that is currently in the old kitchen. The way I remove trash from the house is that every week when I go to the grocery store, I take a plastic grocery bag of trash and toss it in the parking lot trash can. Sometimes I also put a few things in my classroom wastebasket. (My boss gave me permission to use my classroom wastebasket as my "curbside can" as long as it isn't completely full at the end of the day.)

Lately I have been tossing an additional bag of feedbags every few days when I shop or get gas.

As part of the clearing out the house and the anti-consumerism, I really don't like buying anything new unless it is exactly what I want, or truly needed. There is already a trash can under the sink in the old kitchen. The dishwasher is in the old kitchen. I am happy to carry the small amounts of packaging with the dishes and put it there. Dh does not share my values on this. The closer he is to a trash can, the more likely he is to throw things into it that are not trash. Then I have to pick them out. I keep asking him to just leave the "trash" on the counter or table and let me clean up after him. I do it promptly. For some reason this annoys him as much as the few extra steps to the existing trash can.

I put a recycling bag under the sink and he is now throwing trash into it. That is kind of working for me because I can just carry the whole bag to the garage and sort it there. (He thinks it is not trash because it has a recycling symbol on it. He is determined that if it has a recycling symbol on it you can put it in the recycling and those guidelines from the recycling company that picks up the recycling are just bullsh*t. I cannot reason with him.)

Hi everybody!

I need to post and run tonight, but I didn't want to skip posting. It's an accountability thing. My new neighbor is paranoid, so I need to keep on top of housekeeping so my stomach doesn't leap into my throat every time she asks if we should call the landlord because of a noise. I didn't do much over the weekend. Sounds like an excuse, but I needed to be gentle with myself this weekend. I did go to the laundromat and cleaned my car. Both are chores I put off as long as possible. I haven't been feeling well today, but I did spend 25 minutes picking up in the living room and gathering garbage.

Tomorrow I plan to spend some time cleaning my bedroom. At this point, it's the neediest room. I haven't focused on it as much because I know I can just close the door if anybody swings by. However, I am looking forward to getting my sanctuary back.

Subclinical, if you don't mind me asking, why don't you want a garbage can?

More tomorrow!

💦👨‍🚒 stay safe!

Tatoulia, I am glad you have your coffee maker!

I brought home one loaf of bread from the food bank today and a bag of fresh lettuce from the community garden.

Also two stuffed plastic grocery bags of plastic to recycle that I will take when I go to the grocery store tomorrow. Being able to recycle the plastic makes me feel good.

I am on day 35 of the 100 day challenge. Today I finished lining the drawers and moving my cast iron pans into the new kitchen.

Dd goes back to school tomorrow.

We have been moving things around in the house a lot the last few days, and it is helping me see with new eyes. I'm thinking about doing a short challenge to help me clear out, but I haven't really decided if I want to focus on time or number or specific rooms.

YEA! Tatoulia 🙂
Here is a coffee toast for your first cup tomorrow morning...
"CLINK!"

This sure has been a season of devastating natural disasters.
(((HUGS)))

Thank you, Tillie, for reminding us of Cory's location. Sending my prayers your way, Steri-Clean.

Tillie i got my new coffee maker and disposed of the old one. I put it in our recycling bin. I'm hoping that was the correct place for it. I left the new one in the trunk of BF's car and when I called him, he kept teasing me, "I sure wouldn't want to be you tomorrow morning," and "look on the bright side, if I pick you up from work tomorrow, and you remember the coffee maker, then you'll have it". He brought it. Y and I just ran some plain water through it. Now I'll wash it and have it ready for the AM.

I am very concerned about the bay area wildfires.
Cory had/has businesses located in or around that area.

Steri-Clean people in the fire zone area
my thoughts and prayers are with you.

Sincerely, Tillie

Thank you Tatoulia 🙂
You mean the world to me.
I would be lost without the understanding and support I receive here.
Sorry you have to suffer extreme humidity, that is one reason I always choose to live in the desert and really suffered when we lived near San Francisco.
GO GET THE COFFEE MAKER!!!
It will help start you off better in the mornings.
(((HUGS)))

Sending you love, support and peace today Tillie. Remember that you are good and that you are loved. If you'd told me a few years back that I could have genuine friendships on line, I would have never believed it. You are an important part of my life and I hope you know that I am sending you strength today. I've asked Marty & Scooter to give you some extra love today but I've stressed you do not want them to wipe your eyes.

I will get my coffee maker today. Mom was very tired yesterday due to our humidity, and I didn't want to leave her in the car as I went into store for new coffee maker.

You can send us your 40F and we'd love it. It isn't terribly hot here but the humidity makes it feel so terrible. I am using my AC without any shame.

Good Morning Everybody/Anybody 🙂

That brisk breeze yesterday has knocked lots of leaves off of trees and now everything is covered with leaves.
It's pretty chilly this morning, 40s and not expected to get much warmer today.
I'm doing some laundry this morning and it will dry out on the line since there is no humidity.
Need to wash up a few dishes sometime today but other than that, not much else going on around here.
This is a hard anniversary for me so I will probably just take it easy and be kind to myself.

Wishing you all a FABULOUS week! 😀

Good Morning Everybody 🙂

Hi CriticalMass 🙂
Happy surgery anniversary. I am so glad that you healed so well!
YEA! for needing a smaller pant size.
Did you know that Cory Chalmers, owner of this wonderful web site & message board, was a former fire fighter?
A Captain & paramedic in Orange County.
His first business venture was crime scene clean up but he saw a huge need for hoarding clean ups after going into so many hoarded homes.
WTG! for fixing up your shelves!
Go ahead and put Kilz on them and then paint them to your hearts desire.
Good luck finding a working Tardis and when you do don't forget to come visit us all in person. 😀

Hi Subclinical 🙂
WAY TO GO! to your DH for being "Mr. Safety"!
An ottoman coffee table is very versatile.
Steven did not get rid of anything, just slowly moved most of the stuff to new locations.
He does "Shop & Drops" where he brings stuff home and just drops it or plops it and the volume builds up until nobody can get through the areas.

Hi Tatoulia 🙂
REMINDER
Go get a new coffee maker today...
Hang in there best you can with your brother's explosive mood swings. (((HUGS)))
Keep reminding yourself not to take anything he says to heart.
Steven was prescribed one very popular mood altering drug and I could see a huge difference, he was actually kind and polite. Other people noticed he was calmer and nicer too.
But he knows better than the Dr. and stopped taking it, said it wasn't working.
You are not crazy because you question if you are the crazy person.
Crazy people never question if they are crazy because they never believe they are.

Was awake & unable to fall back asleep around 4:00am.
Finally got back to sleep about 6am & slept well till 9am.
It is windy today and a little chilly, classic Autumn weather.

Tatoulia, it is great that you are handling your laundry situation so well.

You are very patient with your brother. You are not crazy.

Dh is in charge of fire hazards at our house, the kids call him "mr. safety" so I don't have to worry about them.

Speaking of which, he is home now! He made me a wonderful dinner last night and we both slept really late this morning. My anxiety level is so much better.

Tillie, did Steven actually get rid of stuff or just move it? Either way, i'm glad you have a better path.

Today would be a good day to wash windows here because it is overcast and rainy, but I don't know if I will. I am going to change the sheets.

CM, I hope you keep feeling better. I think the thing to do with the shelf is whatever allows you to use it and enjoy it. That seems like the best way to honor your father's work.

I didn't get much of a start on Christmas shopping yesterday. I bought one present for my dad, and I bought a really pretty cedar tray. Dh moved an ottoman into the new space and we have been using it like a coffee table, but the top is upholstered. This morning we used the tray to have coffee. I told him it was a birthday present (his is two weeks after mine).

Tatoulia, it is great that you are handling your laundry situation so well.

You are very patient with your brother.

Dh is in charge of fire hazards at our house, the kids call him "mr. safety" so I don't have to worry about them.

Speak8ng of which, he is home now! He made me a wonderful dinner last night and we both slept really late this morning. My anxiety level is so much better.

Tillie, did Steven actually get rid of stuff or just move it? Either way, i'm glad you have a better path.

Today would be a good day to wash windows here because it is overcast and rainy, but I don't know if I will. I am going to change the sheets.

CM, I hope you keep feeling better. I think the thing to do with the shelf is whatever allows you to use it and enjoy it. That seems like the best way to honor your father's work.

I didn't get much of a start on Christmas shopping yesterday. I bought one present for my dad, and I bought a really pretty cedar tray. Dh moved an ottoman into the new space and we have been using it like a coffee table, but the top is upholstered. This morning we used the tray to have coffee. I told him it was a birthday present (his is two weeks after mine).

CM!!! So glad to hear from you--I'm sorry you've been in a funk and I hope the good feelings from working outside and making your shelf less wobbly continue! One year since your surgery--and some weight loss--good to have that behind you! Thank you for the encouragement on my weight loss. I'm a third of the way there and feel terrific. A big confidence booster to fit into smaller sizes!

Tillie I'm so pleased that Steven buckled down and worked on his hoard yesterday! Thank you for understanding the dr thing. It is a terrible balance trying to help and yet saying, not my problem. I just try to endure when the screaming starts. I try to remind myself how terrible he is feeling. It takes its toll, to be sure, esp coming off the trip to VT where my sister behaved so poorly and so terribly (not sure how much I said about that, since I'm trying to focus on the fact that mom was still happy to be back "home,"). They make me wonder if I'm the crazy one. Isn't that terrible?

Going to make coffee in my sad broken coffee maker and hoping I remember to buy a new one today!!

Finally I will attempt to catch up. I'd gotten into a bit of a funk. The tag end of this sinus thing plus "jet lag" from staying up too late and being unable to wake up before 10:00 or so - especially the mornings it was cloudy and raining. Yesterday and today I struggled to have any motivation at all.

Today, not knowing what to do but figuring I'd better do something, I went to the hardware store for wood screws and worked on a small set of bookshelves my dad made for me when I was really young. They'd gotten loose and wobbly in my various moves. I worked on them outdoors - it was sunny in the 70s, beautiful; figured that'd help my depression. I think it did.

Had to stop midway through when I got blisters on my hand, but I'll finish it soon. I may paint it white, because it'd work with my minimalism goal, and it could use a coat of Kilz because it had some light mildew. My sentimental side says don't alter it from how Dad made it, but then I think if he were alive and I said I'd like it painted white, he'd probably paint it for me!

Today is the 1-year anniversary of that big surgery I had last year. So that was a happy thing - that it's done and over with and has had good results. The weight loss has put me down a size in jeans and I need to get to the thrift store and find some. Tatoulia, congrats on your "downsizing"!

Tillie, so cool you found a Dalek for 50 cents! My roommate and I are planning to go to the Doctor Who convention here this month. Sylvester McCoy, Katy Manning, and others are guests. Last year we had Peter Davison - I was just out of the hospital gimping around but it cheered me up so much to go!

Holiday decorations - I loved them for so many years. I have kept a few for when I get my own place, but been very selective. Gave some more away when moving the storage unit, to my mechanic who enjoys decorating his entire yard and house.

SubC, happy birthday! Wish I could give you the gift of an ideal trash can. 😉 My new preference is the stainless steel with the step-on thing to open the lid. My former roommate gave me a kitchen-sized one that was like new. It resides in my storage for my use there for now. I recently bought a small stainless one for my bedroom. I like their streamlined look. I'm sure you'll find something to your taste one of these days. You'll know it when you see it.

Tess, great job you've been doing - glad you didn't have the pressure situation after all but you still get the pleasure of accomplishment! Yay!

Tillie, glad Steven moved that stuff and cleaned the fan, and hope he'll deal with the cooler. Any progress is progress. Interesting you bring up about fire hazard issues. I was looking up some reference from that Year Of No Clutter book and got to looking at professional firefighters' websites. There was an article discussing fighting fires in hoarder homes. I so respect our first responders and I would feel horrible if one died after saving me and then getting stuck in my stuff. So that is motivating for me to keep pressing on in my goal to have a liveable space.

I'm coasting just a bit as I wait for more energy and focus to come back. They will. October calendar is filling up more and faster that I would like - bunny club activities, church events, and friends wanting to get together. All good stuff, but so much at once! I need a Tardis so I can do it all and still have some time to decompress and relax and work on my projects. Wonder if I could find a used Tardis on Craigslist. Haha!

Hi Tatoulia 🙂
WAY TO GO! For a clean kitchen and fresh clean sheets!
So very sorry your brother was so difficult.
Please remember to put your wellbeing first.
You can't help anyone else when your own needs are not being met. (((HUGS)))
Good that you didn't mention that his Dr. called you.
Steven gets very "defensive" whenever I question him about his decisions not to take certain meds or make certain appointments.
It's like they are taking control of their own lives and know better than any medical professionals.
YEA! for searching your home for any lurking fire hazards! 😀
Hope the AC makes your bedroom more tolerable.

Well, got the outside of the windows & screens washed but my back hurt too much to do the inside today.
So, my plan is to wash the insides tomorrow.
Will do laundry tomorrow too.
I did shower and wash my hair this afternoon.
I always wash the inside windows about every two weeks or so because the cats always get kitty boogers on them.
In the shower I noticed the tub was draining slow, again. So I cleaned it out real good and then used baking soda & vinegar down it.
Drains great now. 😀
Steven did clean the ceiling fan but the cooler still has not been taken care of.
I didn't say anything about the cooler because he was moving a very long standing massive blockage of hoard and clearing more of a foot path from the back porch to the back yard. YEA!

Hi Tillie!

Doing laundry tonight while BF works. Very harrowing with brother today. Very difficult all the yelling and screaming and insults and we were stuck in traffic. Horrible. His mental illness has certainly changed over the years and right now it's new and different and difficult but in an easier way. He's not depressed and crying but he has delusions that are very, very odd. He has stopped going to his weekly psych appt and has stopped all psych meds. I just endure. His dr even called me this week, which I believe is the first time he's ever called me. I did not tell brother that he called me. I don't need that batch of violence/screaming, etc.

I have clean sheets and will shower soon and climb into bed and read.

I've done dishes and cleaned up stove top and one of the counters. I forgot to get a new coffee maker today. Maybe tomorrow with mom.

Very humid here. I may treat myself to AC tonight because I see no reason to suffer.

Goodnight everyone. I hear you on the fire hazard Tillie and am thinking about it/looking around!

Good Morning Everybody 🙂

Hi Tess 🙂
WAY TO GO!!!
That's how it gets done!
One small short amount of effort here & there daily really does add up over time.
Your plan to sort one bin at a time, when you have the time will pay off quickly too. 😀

Hi Subclinical 🙂
Just keep brain storming and I know you will find exactly what you want for your trash can. (((HUGS)))
P.S. HAPPY BIRTHDAY! 😀

Hi Anonymoniker 🙂
Where are you?
What have you been up to??

Hi CriticalMass 🙂
How have you been doing?

Hi Joan 🙂

Hi Tatoulia 🙂
I also have been surprised that you have been O.K. without your washer being fixed.
You have been so lucky to have that "emergency back up" washer to use.
Wishing you a good day out with your brother. (((HUGS)))

Well, today I am going to wash the windows & screens one last time today.
Soon it will be too cold & snowy to bother until next Spring.
Put out my Halloween decorations yesterday.
Last October I was too depressed to decorate or even get a pumpkin.
Happy that this year I am happier. ;D
My Ash trees are a glorious gold foliage today.
The Chrysanthemums are loaded with flower buds almost ready to burst open.
The Honeysuckle has one last little bloom on it.
I told Steven he needs to clean out the bathroom ceiling fan today.
He is the only one who ever uses it (I just open the window) and the fan/motor is full of thick dust.
This maintenance is to help prevent house fires.
Hint, Hint... is there something in your homes that needs to be maintained to help prevent house fires???

Happy Birthday, SubC! Sounds like you had a great day with your daughter!!!

Hellooo Tess! Great work! So proud of you and I bet you feel really good about yourself! Great accomplishments!

Am taking brother out today. Am running a quick load of delicate items which I can hang dry. I don't mean to keep bringing this up but I'm amazed that I'm not all cuckoo over my washer still bring broken. The guy hasn't come back and infection I get s littke money together, I'll hire someone else.

Have a great day, everyone. Coffee clinks, Tillie!

Hit Tess, that sounds like an amazing job on your home!

I empathize with the Bins. When I started dehoarding, I had a huge number of "random boxes" - boxes in which I had simply swept up everthing on some surface and then hidden. I can't remember, but well over 100. I was constantly churning them looking for important things. The last box became my "in box" I still toss random stuff into it, but it is not allowed to get full.

I can't order a trash can. My problem is that I don't want a trash can. And if I must have a trash can, it must be made from a material that can be burned, recycled, or composted when I am done with it. It must also be washable and hold one plastic grocery bag. I was in the container store because I found one online that was available there - from the description it was stainless steel and made to hold a plastic grocery bag. In person, it was a thin stainless steel shell over plastic with a removable plastic liner and a heavy plastic lid partly clad in stainless steel that held the bag in place.

Maybe I will keep an eye out at the thrift store for a tall pot with handles and a lid. I don't know if dh will be ok with that. Maybe I will just keep using the clothes pin bucket, but it is probably too small.

Tatoulia, enjoy the museum!

I am going to the renfest with Dd and her best friend and bestfriend's Baby today. I love renfest and I love babies! I am hopefully going to start my Christmas shopping.

Tillie, i'm Glad about Scooter but sorry about the shopping.

Dd and I went shopping at goodwill yesterday evening. I get half off for my birthday. She got a new skirt and a thanksgiving decoration that is just like one I have put out every year since she was a baby. I got the jeans I need and a cookie mold (I collect them and am planning to work a changing display into the new kitchen when we have the space more finished) and a bunch of items for molds and textures in my studio and classroom. Total was about $20, but at least 5 of that will come back from my classroom budget, and I have one, maybe two weeks of new lesson plans out of it.

Hello friends! TGIF!

Subclinical, have you checked out Amazon for a garbage can? I bought mine on Amazon for really cheap. I've been using it for 2 years now without issue.

Well, today I kept on cleaning. I've been doing at least 10 minutes of cleaning in the morning and working on decluttering one area/box/shelf/bag/drawer in the evening. This is a plan I know I can stick with even when I'm not feeling well or just feeling down. I worked from home, so I did a little extra. Today I emptied the garbage can and picked up the few dishes I left laying around yesterday. I also cleared and cleaned the kitchen counter. My cat vomited on my reading chair, so I cleaned that up too. Lastly, I gave the bathtub another scrub. I think it's as clean as I can get it. I also started scrubbing the tile with a little brush. That is hard work! As for decluttering, I have storage bins that are a mix of a little of everything. Tonight I'm working on sorting through one of the bins and putting everything where it belongs even if it's in the trash. I even went to yoga today and ran a few errands. I'm going to call today a win!

Great work on making the enchiladas, Tillie! Sounds so nice, on a bed of lettuce!

Glad Scooter's eyes are better! Same thing with Miss Kitty--hell to pay to get her in the carrier and at the vet's office she can't wait to climb back in. We even have to put it out of her sight just to get her examined! And yet at home, if I have it out, she'll sleep in it.

Good day at work and I'm glad to be home. Long weekend! Nothing big planned. I'll do the usual family stuff and then BF and I will probably go to the museum. We are members so we tend to go frequently.

I'll write more later. Want to make dinner now!

Hello everybody 🙂

Hi Tatoulia 🙂
Hoping you had a good day at work and have something fun planned for the weekend.

Well, made my enchiladas.
I eat them on a bed of tossed salad greens so it's a complete meal.
Got the kitchen all cleaned up.
Scooter went to the Veterinarian for a follow up check up on his eyes.
He REALLY hates being put into the cat carrier at home but can't wait to get back into it when he's at the Vet's.
His check up went well, his eyes are greatly improved.
Steven left home early this morning and spent the entire day going to yard sales and thrift shops.
>:P
Since I woke up so early I expected to be tired by afternoon but I'm not. YEA! 😀

Good morning! I'm super late for work but such is life. I ended up having to help mom last night and didn't get home til nearly 11.

Hope today goes well, Tillie. SubC, I hope you can find time to make your blood work appt. at my dr we don't need an appt, you just show up and they put you in the queue.

I'll write more later. Need to dry hair and get going!

Good Morning Everybody 🙂
Tea toast "CINK!"

Hi Subclinical 🙂
My kitchen trash can is a small 27lb yellow plastic Tidy Cats litter bucket.
Bought it years ago when the store had it reduced to 2.00, used the litter and am still using the plastic bucket.
I line it with a plastic grocery store bag and put paper junk mail in the bottom of the bag in case of any wet trash.
It really irks me to spend any money on my garbage.
Those buckets are not recyclable but they are very sturdy and durable "forever" type things.
Please, next time you get another order for blood work you actually have it done.
It's a great way to find and fix problems while they are still small. (((HUGS)))

Been awake since before 4:00am due to that big beautiful stupid moon.
Tried to get back to sleep for an hour but finally gave up.
Steven took today off, another use it or lose it day off work.
The evaporative cooler has the side off it and half the water drained since last week.
Wondering if he will finish this task this weekend???
I have 5 Halloween decorations, they are the only seasonal decorations I own.
Have the bin with them in the house and will decorate sometime today.
Still need to get a pumpkin.
Would like to go to the pumpkin patch and walk through the corn maze and buy some local honey too. ;D

I was really tired last night and my post got lost, so I just put that last part back up.

I know what a dalek is. i'm gladyou found it Tillie. 🙂

And i'm Proud of both of you for making your appointments. I still have a paper for routine blood work from spring.

I totally failed to buy a trash can yesterday. I spent an hour in a store. Dh called while I was there and when I answered my phone he asked "are you driving?" (He always does that, and he hangs up if I say yes). I said "no, I'm in the container store completely failing to buy a trash can." He said "forget it. Go home." So I did.

The whole experience made me feel a little bit sick. Also, all I can ever think of when I look at trash cans is the George Carlin routine about putting the can in the bag, taking it home, and putting the bag in the can.

My mom recently gave me the cloth bag that my grandmother kept the clothes pins in. I dumped my clothes pins into it and put the little plastic bucket under the kitchen sink with a bag in it. Dh will have to be happy with that for now.

Tillie, you are right about it making my life harder, but you are also right about the "compulsion" part. I have gotten better about not looking, and I wish I hadn't seen the drawers (I actually swore out loud when I did) but I can take them to goodwill if I don't use them, and this has been a very hard week. My anxiety level had just gotten manageable after dh leaving, and I simply couldn't drive by.

Heart- daughter and grandson got me a t-shirt for my birthday. He picked it out. I don't really need a new shirt, but I love it. It says "Librarian party - make America read again"

I'm going to wear it to work tomorrow.

YEA!!!! Tatoulia! 😀WAY TO GO!
You are scheduled the same day as I am for my eye exam.

Went to town
got water
Looked around in the thrift shop for something that I liked/wanted/needed and didn't see anything to buy,
Until... I spotted a tiny blue Dalek sitting on a shelf!
It's a Dr. Who thing.
Paid 50 cents for it and was prepared to pay even more if I had to. LOL
Happy Dance! 😀
Then went to the grocery store and bought some of the items on my list.
Got what I needed to make cheese enchiladas, really been craving them and will make them tomorrow. YUM!

Mammogram set for Saturday the 14th. Thanks Tillie! I have to find the paper re ultrasound so I know where to call.

At work--walking home. Might stop at grocery store.